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	<description>Intellectual Property in the Age of First to File</description>
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		<title>Comment on Monetizing Patents by hans kloss</title>
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		<dc:creator>hans kloss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 17:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am ipressed by the quality of writing on this website. There are a lots of well thought out resources here. If wanted to know more about the green smoke, than by all means come in and check our stuff. I am sure I will visit this place again soon. Brilliant, it&#039;s a great article. All the best.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Stanford v. Roche &#8211; A harbinger of unconstitutionality of FTF? by Bruce Burdick</title>
		<link>http://www.burdlaw.com/blog/?p=162#comment-5629</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Burdick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see nowhere in the opinion that Stanford knew of the assignment provision, despite your assertions to the contrary, or thought it would override their own merely because one used present tense and one used future tense. We know for a fact it was all future tense since an invention, even under the CETUS version, could not be assigned until it was made. We also know that the inventor had a prior obligation to Stanford to assign inventions so he really had no ability to enter into the agreement with CETUS to assign to CETUS since he had given away such right previously in his agreement with Stanford.

What I think we actually learn from the case is that the Court wants to do justice and felt that CETUS, being privately funded, and needing this assignment to be upheld was the more deserving because the Stanford PhD would not have been given access to CETUS and thus could not have made his invention had he not agreed to assign inventions to CETUS.

I understand and agree that the suit went up on the Bayh-Dole issue because Stanford thought it had a loser on the assignment issue and so needed to get an automatic assignment to fight the automatic assignment in the CETUS agreement. The problem I have with Stanford is that it should have realized that was also a loser.  

The case is of more widespread significance because it necessarily holds that a first to invent inventor has an assignable property right in the invention, as otherwise the Stanford PhD could not have assigned the invention. 

If inventors own an assignable property right to their invention upon creation of the invention, then a first to invent inventor owns the invention and a second inventor to invent does not own the invention, or we have two independent owners of the invention. However, we know that the founders meant the first inventor to own the right, and for a second to invent not to own any such right, as they specifically put into the first patent law a right to invalidate any patent on the grounds that the patentee was not the true and first inventor. So, the AIA takes the property of the first to invent and gives it to the first to file (if different), and that may violate the 5th amendments Takings clause (i.e. that no person shall be deprived of property without just compensation). Thus, to be constitutional, the law must be interpreted to read a &quot;just compensation&quot; requirement into the law or be held unconstitutional so the first to invent is not deprived of his property without just compensation. Since the AIA does not provide for such compensation, either it is unconstitutional or the Government must come up with compensation.  At least that is the test case to be pursued the first time an important enough invention is taken from a first to invent and given to a later to invent but first to file inventor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see nowhere in the opinion that Stanford knew of the assignment provision, despite your assertions to the contrary, or thought it would override their own merely because one used present tense and one used future tense. We know for a fact it was all future tense since an invention, even under the CETUS version, could not be assigned until it was made. We also know that the inventor had a prior obligation to Stanford to assign inventions so he really had no ability to enter into the agreement with CETUS to assign to CETUS since he had given away such right previously in his agreement with Stanford.</p>
<p>What I think we actually learn from the case is that the Court wants to do justice and felt that CETUS, being privately funded, and needing this assignment to be upheld was the more deserving because the Stanford PhD would not have been given access to CETUS and thus could not have made his invention had he not agreed to assign inventions to CETUS.</p>
<p>I understand and agree that the suit went up on the Bayh-Dole issue because Stanford thought it had a loser on the assignment issue and so needed to get an automatic assignment to fight the automatic assignment in the CETUS agreement. The problem I have with Stanford is that it should have realized that was also a loser.  </p>
<p>The case is of more widespread significance because it necessarily holds that a first to invent inventor has an assignable property right in the invention, as otherwise the Stanford PhD could not have assigned the invention. </p>
<p>If inventors own an assignable property right to their invention upon creation of the invention, then a first to invent inventor owns the invention and a second inventor to invent does not own the invention, or we have two independent owners of the invention. However, we know that the founders meant the first inventor to own the right, and for a second to invent not to own any such right, as they specifically put into the first patent law a right to invalidate any patent on the grounds that the patentee was not the true and first inventor. So, the AIA takes the property of the first to invent and gives it to the first to file (if different), and that may violate the 5th amendments Takings clause (i.e. that no person shall be deprived of property without just compensation). Thus, to be constitutional, the law must be interpreted to read a &#8220;just compensation&#8221; requirement into the law or be held unconstitutional so the first to invent is not deprived of his property without just compensation. Since the AIA does not provide for such compensation, either it is unconstitutional or the Government must come up with compensation.  At least that is the test case to be pursued the first time an important enough invention is taken from a first to invent and given to a later to invent but first to file inventor.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anti-Inventor Act of 2011 due to be signed. Extinguishing the fire of genius. by Is America Losing Its Startup Edge? &#171; America Invents IP Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.burdlaw.com/blog/?p=344#comment-5555</link>
		<dc:creator>Is America Losing Its Startup Edge? &#171; America Invents IP Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 04:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] huge increase in cost slapped on startups by the new, misnamed, America Invents Act (HR 1249) which distorted the US Patent system heavily in favor of big business and decreased the safety net for sta... and increased the risk of failure and the investment needed. &#160;    No [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Stanford v. Roche &#8211; A harbinger of unconstitutionality of FTF? by Gerald Barnett</title>
		<link>http://www.burdlaw.com/blog/?p=162#comment-5552</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I didn&#039;t assume the fact at all.  It was part of the CAFC decsion that Stanford&#039;s employees knew of the deal and therefore Stanford could not disclaim knowledge merely because they wanted other Stanford employees to know of the deal before they accepted that they had notice of it.   Not only did Stanford have notice, but the director of the lab that sent the postdoc over to Cetus was a member of the Cetus technical advisory board.  This all has come out in court documents.  

I would caution on reasoning about &quot;employment agreement&quot; .  Stanford had a policy that permitted consulting and stated that inventors owned inventions &quot;whenever possible&quot;--even when made with Stanford facilities.  Again, noted by the court. Stanford officials encouraged the consulting, and expected to benefit from it, and the employee notified those officials of the deal.  All this before the employee invented.  There is nothing in the federal funding agreement or Bayh-Dole that requires the employee to assign to Stanford.  Thus, there is also nothing in Stanford IP policy at the time --essentially the &quot;employment agreement&quot; for inventions--that required the employee to assign to the university. &quot;Whenever possible&quot; applies and includes the deal the employee entered into with Cetus.  

With regard to why the suit in the first place, Stanford relied on a claim that Bayh-Dole entitled them to exclusive title and voided any competing commitments of title.  It was only when they lost on appeal that the question of Bayh-Dole became the focus.  There, they and a lot of other universities discovered they were very wrong in their representation of Bayh-Dole.  

I do not have an explanation for why Stanford could allow consulting, allow the deal they did, and allow the company to rely on that deal, and then decide not to &quot;accept&quot; it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I didn&#8217;t assume the fact at all.  It was part of the CAFC decsion that Stanford&#8217;s employees knew of the deal and therefore Stanford could not disclaim knowledge merely because they wanted other Stanford employees to know of the deal before they accepted that they had notice of it.   Not only did Stanford have notice, but the director of the lab that sent the postdoc over to Cetus was a member of the Cetus technical advisory board.  This all has come out in court documents.  </p>
<p>I would caution on reasoning about &#8220;employment agreement&#8221; .  Stanford had a policy that permitted consulting and stated that inventors owned inventions &#8220;whenever possible&#8221;&#8211;even when made with Stanford facilities.  Again, noted by the court. Stanford officials encouraged the consulting, and expected to benefit from it, and the employee notified those officials of the deal.  All this before the employee invented.  There is nothing in the federal funding agreement or Bayh-Dole that requires the employee to assign to Stanford.  Thus, there is also nothing in Stanford IP policy at the time &#8211;essentially the &#8220;employment agreement&#8221; for inventions&#8211;that required the employee to assign to the university. &#8220;Whenever possible&#8221; applies and includes the deal the employee entered into with Cetus.  </p>
<p>With regard to why the suit in the first place, Stanford relied on a claim that Bayh-Dole entitled them to exclusive title and voided any competing commitments of title.  It was only when they lost on appeal that the question of Bayh-Dole became the focus.  There, they and a lot of other universities discovered they were very wrong in their representation of Bayh-Dole.  </p>
<p>I do not have an explanation for why Stanford could allow consulting, allow the deal they did, and allow the company to rely on that deal, and then decide not to &#8220;accept&#8221; it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A loophole for the savvy small inventor to get Fast Tracked? by George Margolin</title>
		<link>http://www.burdlaw.com/blog/?p=479#comment-5450</link>
		<dc:creator>George Margolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 07:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CLEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF it will work this way could be a godsend.  George</description>
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<p>IF it will work this way could be a godsend.  George</p>
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		<title>Comment on Were Microentity fees a cruel trick? by Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.burdlaw.com/blog/?p=382#comment-5357</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 04:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This delay is inexcusable.</description>
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		<title>Comment on An Alternative Patent Reform proposal by burdlaw1</title>
		<link>http://www.burdlaw.com/blog/?p=86#comment-5066</link>
		<dc:creator>burdlaw1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is noted that Microsoft did NOT win the appeal noted in the third paragraph, which was the Microsoft v i4i case, so the burden of proof on invalidity is still &quot;clear and convincing&quot; and not a dubious preponderance as MS had advocated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is noted that Microsoft did NOT win the appeal noted in the third paragraph, which was the Microsoft v i4i case, so the burden of proof on invalidity is still &#8220;clear and convincing&#8221; and not a dubious preponderance as MS had advocated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stanford v. Roche &#8211; A harbinger of unconstitutionality of FTF? by burdlaw1</title>
		<link>http://www.burdlaw.com/blog/?p=162#comment-4440</link>
		<dc:creator>burdlaw1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 18:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerald, you assumed a fact not in evidence. Namely that Stanford knew of the assignment to Cetus/Roche and that Stanford accepted the condition of assignment to Cetus. As I read the facts, Stanford was not aware of that assignment to Cetus. In fact, the dissent notes that the Stanford agreement specifically prohibited the inventor from entering into any agreement that would prohibit the assignment to Stanford of the invention.  How is that a waiver? Seems to me to be the opposite of a waiver. Certainly they did not &quot;accept&quot; it, as otherwise there would be no suit.  The suit was premised on Stanford challenging the assignment to Cetus, not accepting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerald, you assumed a fact not in evidence. Namely that Stanford knew of the assignment to Cetus/Roche and that Stanford accepted the condition of assignment to Cetus. As I read the facts, Stanford was not aware of that assignment to Cetus. In fact, the dissent notes that the Stanford agreement specifically prohibited the inventor from entering into any agreement that would prohibit the assignment to Stanford of the invention.  How is that a waiver? Seems to me to be the opposite of a waiver. Certainly they did not &#8220;accept&#8221; it, as otherwise there would be no suit.  The suit was premised on Stanford challenging the assignment to Cetus, not accepting it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stanford v. Roche &#8211; A harbinger of unconstitutionality of FTF? by Gerald Barnett</title>
		<link>http://www.burdlaw.com/blog/?p=162#comment-2704</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People overlook that Stanford had a policy that permitted inventors to own &quot;whenever possible&quot;.   In encouraging the post doc to spend 9 months at Cetus learning core technology and accepting the condition of assignment to Cetus, Stanford waived its claim to subsequent inventions within the scope of the deal between the inventor-to-be and Cetus.  

A Stanford prior present assignment would not have changed the waiver--just the method of assignment should an invention be within Stanford&#039;s scope of claim..  Stanford have to require a present assignment that operates even if Stanford later waives that requirement and then after a company relies on the waiver to give Stanford access to its core technology,  Stanford then could regret the waiver, take assignment,  and  sue the company for a quarter billion dollars.   &quot;We will let you commit to assign so long as we can void the assignment later at our discretion.&quot;  

Stanford knew of the assignment to Cetus/Roche.  It could not be a qualified later purchaser under 35 USC 261.  It had to find a way to void the assignment.
For that it came up with a reading of Bayh-Dole that argued that federal funding vested ownership outright in federal contractors.  Roche argued that such a reading of the law, applied after the fact to a private contract, would constitute a taking from Roche without due process or compensation.  The Supreme Court rejected the Stanford argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People overlook that Stanford had a policy that permitted inventors to own &#8220;whenever possible&#8221;.   In encouraging the post doc to spend 9 months at Cetus learning core technology and accepting the condition of assignment to Cetus, Stanford waived its claim to subsequent inventions within the scope of the deal between the inventor-to-be and Cetus.  </p>
<p>A Stanford prior present assignment would not have changed the waiver&#8211;just the method of assignment should an invention be within Stanford&#8217;s scope of claim..  Stanford have to require a present assignment that operates even if Stanford later waives that requirement and then after a company relies on the waiver to give Stanford access to its core technology,  Stanford then could regret the waiver, take assignment,  and  sue the company for a quarter billion dollars.   &#8220;We will let you commit to assign so long as we can void the assignment later at our discretion.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Stanford knew of the assignment to Cetus/Roche.  It could not be a qualified later purchaser under 35 USC 261.  It had to find a way to void the assignment.<br />
For that it came up with a reading of Bayh-Dole that argued that federal funding vested ownership outright in federal contractors.  Roche argued that such a reading of the law, applied after the fact to a private contract, would constitute a taking from Roche without due process or compensation.  The Supreme Court rejected the Stanford argument.</p>
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		<title>Comment on America Invents Act (formerly Patent Reform Act of 2011) – so big business can more easily steal inventions by burdlaw1</title>
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		<dc:creator>burdlaw1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 23:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One must not swear to  be inventor if one is not. To do otherwise would be dishonest.&quot; Reality check - Now that FTF is adopted we must rely on big business to be honest (good luck with that!) and to give up millions of dollars (good luck with that, too!) if they derived rather than falsely claim to be inventor and destroy all evidence (now there is something big business is good at) of derivation. With all the big business execs going to jail and the pressures to make money, does anyone really think big business can be trusted to be honest. The best Congress money can buy apparently does since there is no discovery provided for in a derivation proceeding and a derivation proceeding must be filed within one year of publication, i.e. before the patent is even granted. Yes, you have to file one of these expensive derivation proceedings before you know the claimed invention that you have to prove by clear and convincing evidence (without discovery) was derived. Really an impotent option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One must not swear to  be inventor if one is not. To do otherwise would be dishonest.&#8221; Reality check &#8211; Now that FTF is adopted we must rely on big business to be honest (good luck with that!) and to give up millions of dollars (good luck with that, too!) if they derived rather than falsely claim to be inventor and destroy all evidence (now there is something big business is good at) of derivation. With all the big business execs going to jail and the pressures to make money, does anyone really think big business can be trusted to be honest. The best Congress money can buy apparently does since there is no discovery provided for in a derivation proceeding and a derivation proceeding must be filed within one year of publication, i.e. before the patent is even granted. Yes, you have to file one of these expensive derivation proceedings before you know the claimed invention that you have to prove by clear and convincing evidence (without discovery) was derived. Really an impotent option.</p>
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